i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
Moderator: MalcolmV8
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
how about a pic of the 351C and the " sbf " so we can compair the two side by side
1986 Ranger with 1990 5.0 HO roller motor
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
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Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
Reading some other threads about 351w vs 351c vs 351m, the consensus seems pretty straight forward:
351 Modified vs. 351 windsor vs. 351 cleavland
- There are no BB or SB Fords. Fords have family names like FE, 335 series, 385 series, Winsor, and Mod motors (along with a few others). But the whole concept of BB or SB is a lead-over from the Chevy world and has no real place in Ford. After the discussion here on this board, I came to that conclusion all on my own. It's nice to know that's the general consensus by other Ford enthusiasts as well.
- The 351c was a great engine for its day. It came with 2v and 4v heads. The 2v heads were OK but nothing special. But the real reason the engine was made was for the 4v heads to compete in Nascar since the Winsor wasn't cutting it. The 4v Cleveland did the trick for Nascar, but is a race engine and doesn't really work well as a street engine since it doesn't really begin performing until about 4000 RPMs.
- The 351m has a taller deck height because it's basically a 400 block destroked with a 351w crank. They have the nickname boat anchor since their added weight for no real value makes them fairly useless engines. They were far better left as 400s.
- The 351w was a weaker block as compared to the others, but still quite capable. It got a bad reputation in the older days because of piss-poor head design. But thanks to the excellent aftermarket support for the 302 HO, the 351w coat-tailed on that same effort because most of the 302 hardware works equally as well on 351w engines making the 351w the clear winner of the Ford 351s today.
351 Modified vs. 351 windsor vs. 351 cleavland
...Always Somethin'
89 Ranger Supercab, 331, ported GT40p heads w/1.6RRs, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, ported Explorer lower, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', 8.8" rear w/3.27s, Powertrax Locker, A9L w/Moates QuarterHorse, Innovate LC-1, James Duff traction bars, iDelta DC Fan controller
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ranger50toy
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Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
84 Shortbox std cab w/ 5.0L / C4 / Holley 600 vacuum sec - Wrecked
88 Extended cab w/ 2.3L EFI Turbo / 5 Spd - Sold
94 Shortbox std cab w/ 3.0L / 5 spd - Sold
85 shortbox std cab w/ 2.0L / 5 spd - Big Plans
88 Extended cab w/ 2.3L EFI Turbo / 5 Spd - Sold
94 Shortbox std cab w/ 3.0L / 5 spd - Sold
85 shortbox std cab w/ 2.0L / 5 spd - Big Plans
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
Again.....the BB vs SB debate goes on....LOL Been going on since I can remember.
Dirt is for Farming....Asphalt is for Racing
85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
I do want to add I think a 351C in a Ranger would be cool. Definitely a one of kind rig, and if you put good heads it will run like a raped ape. If I had the cash I would probably do one just cause it seems like it would be a cool project. I say if it's what you want go for it, would love to see one done.
Dirt is for Farming....Asphalt is for Racing
85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
85 Ranger 5.0, GTP Engine, Carbed, AOD, 7.5 3:45 rear gear(for now)
77 Mustang II 302, C4, 8" rearend 3:00 gears, 4 point roll bar
73 Mustang Convertible, Bone Stock, 48,000 original miles
91 F-250 5.8W(really needs a 460) 4X4
2000 Mustang 3.8 V6, Bone Stock
2011 Ford Fusion (Momma's hot rod)
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Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
I agree, a 351c Ranger would certainly get kudos in the uniqueness arena. But I'm afraid it doesn't get much in the practicality. But perhaps a 351c where part of the project was fabbing a set of AFR185s onto it might. I don't think there's ever been a Cleveland head (stock or worked) that has ever performed like a set of AFRs.
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89 Ranger Supercab, 331, ported GT40p heads w/1.6RRs, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, ported Explorer lower, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', 8.8" rear w/3.27s, Powertrax Locker, A9L w/Moates QuarterHorse, Innovate LC-1, James Duff traction bars, iDelta DC Fan controller
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Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
Hey guys,
Found a video of a 351C on Youtube. This guy has several video's of his 351C Ranger. That Cleveland sure does look good in engine bay!
Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzb2rdfD ... re=channel
Found a video of a 351C on Youtube. This guy has several video's of his 351C Ranger. That Cleveland sure does look good in engine bay!
Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzb2rdfD ... re=channel
Shane
'85 Ranger
302, 4 bbl
T5 with S-10 tailhousing
8.8 w/Arburn locker 3:73
'85 Ranger
302, 4 bbl
T5 with S-10 tailhousing
8.8 w/Arburn locker 3:73
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
Would like to have seen some better engine bay pic's of the 351C Ranger. Didnt look to bad.
1986 Ranger with 1990 5.0 HO roller motor
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Ported GT-40 heads
Duel plane air gap intake with 750cfm Holly
Paxton SN93 Supercharger with 3 1/2" pulley.
8 to 9psi of boost??
T-5 trans
Large tube shorty headers
Stock posi rear end
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
The 351C is a SMALL BLOCK!!! It shares alot with other sbf as stated earlier and doesnt share but only one thing with the 429/460 big blocks the distributor. Ford has always call the Cleveland a small block and if you look inside the ford racing catalog it is listed as a small block (again by ford) and look up the early mustangs as they will be listed as a small block option. Ford is and was the maker of the engine and they called it a small block.......So small block it is.
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
i found this ... it might put to rest the debate on whether the 351C is a small or big block ....
BIG BLOCK FORD BLOCK NUMBERS
71-74 351C,BOSS,CJ,HO,4V (D2AE-CA)
70-74 351C 2V (DOAZ-D)
71 351C 4V (DOAE-J)(DOAE-G)
BIG BLOCK FORD BLOCK NUMBERS
71-74 351C,BOSS,CJ,HO,4V (D2AE-CA)
70-74 351C 2V (DOAZ-D)
71 351C 4V (DOAE-J)(DOAE-G)
96 Ranger Extended cab - work in progress.. 5.0 out of a 90 Mustang GT..Tremec TKO-3550-2 with mid-shift conversion ..Explorer GT40 intake and fuel rails. X303 FMS cam . WP Jr alum heads . K&N air filter.lowered .Weld Drag Lites (or Weld Pro-Stars) .. a 8.8 with Auburn Pro ..Moser custom alloy street axles (31 spline) and a 3:73 gear.L&L engine mounts and oil filter adapter.Aluminum Rad from James Duff.
Peace from Oxford Miss.
Grumpy
Peace from Oxford Miss.
Grumpy
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
plus i found this too for all ya guys that have the EARLY blocks and want to know what it is .. casting #'s bore/stroke bearing sizes intakes they came with .... virtually EVERYTHING you would want to know about the v-8 from beginning to the early to mid 70's ... i fi can find anything on the 80's and up ... ill post it here
btw ... this came from a Ford employee ..... i think...lol
ENGINE BLOCK CASTING DATA (BASIC PART # 6015)
CID Year Casting# Bore Deck Notations
221 62 C2OE-G C30E 3.50 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 6" between motor mount holes, 2 freeze plugs per side
221 63 C3OE-A 3.50 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 7" between motor mount holes, 3 freeze plugs per side
260 62 C3OE-B 3.80 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 6" between motor mount holes, 2 freeze plugs per side
260 62-65 C3OE-C C4OE-B C4OE-D C4OE-E 3.80 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 7" between motor mount holes, 3 freeze plugs per side
289 63-64 C3AE-N C4OE-C C4OE-F C4AE C4DE
4.00 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing
289 65-68 C5AE-E C5OE-A C6AE-C 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
289HP 63-64 C3OE-B C4OE-B 4.00 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, orange color code - block rear
289HP 65-68 C5AE-E 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing, orange color code - block rear - except for main caps no different than standard 289 casting.
302 68-69 C8OE-A C8OE-B C8TE-B 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
302 70-74 C8TE-B D1TZ-E D1OE-AA D4DE-AA 4.00 see note 6 bolt bellhousing. 73-76 deck is 8.229, rest are 8.206
302 74-77 D4DE-AA 75ZY-AA 4.00 see note 6 bolt bellhousing. 73-76 deck is 8.229, rest are 8.206
Boss 302 69 C9ZE C8FE 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
Boss 302 70 CDOZE-B 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
351W 69-70 C9OE-B 4.00 9.480 6 bolt bellhousing
351W 71-74 D2AE-BA D4AE-DA /td> 4.00 see note 71-73 deck is 9.480, rest are 9.503
351W 75-77 D4AE-AA 4.00 9.503
351C-2V 70-74 D0AZ-D 4.00 9.206 2 bolt mains, 6 bolt bellhousing, all 351C have same motor mounts as 289-351W
351C-4V 71 D0AE-J D0AE-G D2AE-CA 4.00 9.206 2 bolt mains
351C Boss 351C-71 CJ, HO 72-74 4V 72-74 D2AE-CA 4.00 9.206 Note casting # same as 2 bolt. Hobby consensus is that Ford mixed these in production. 2 bolt blocks have been found on 4V's and 4 bolt blocks in family cars.
351M 75-80 D5AZ D7TE-A2B D8xx 4.00 10.297 Big block(429/460) bellhousing pattern, big block motor bosses. Shares characteristics with 400
400 71-80 D1AE-A D1AE-AC D1AE-A2C D4AE-B2A D5AZ D7TE-A2B D8xx 4.00 10.297 Big block(429/460) bellhousing pattern, big block motor mount bosses.
400 73 D3AE-B 4.00 10.297 Same bellhousing pattern as 351C. Typically mated to FMX trans. Rare
BIG BLOCK FORD BLOCK NUMBERS
71-74 351C,BOSS,CJ,HO,4V (D2AE-CA)
70-74 351C 2V (DOAZ-D)
71 351C 4V (DOAE-J)(DOAE-G)
70 429CJ (C9VE-A)
70-71 429SCJ (DOOE-B)
71 429CJ (DOVE-A)
71-72 429PI (DOVE-A)
60 352 (EDC-B)(EDC-C)
62 406 (C2AE-J)(C2AE-K)(C2AE-V)
62-63 406 (C2AE-B)(C2AE-D)
63 406 (C3AE-D)(C3AE-V)
63 390PI (C3AE-KY)
63 390PI (C3ME-B)
64 390PI (C4AE-F)
65 390PI (C5AE-B)
61 390HP (C1AE-V)
62 390HP (C2AE-BC)(C2AE-BE)
62 390HP (C2AE-BR)(C2AE-BS)
63 427 (C3AE-M)(C3AE-AB)
64 427 (C4AE)(C4AE-A)
65 427 (C3AE-Z)
65 427 (C5AE-A)(C5AE-E)
65 427 (C5AE-A)(C5AE-D)(C5AE-H)
66 427 (6AE-C)
66-67 427 (C6AE-A)(C6AE-B)(C6AE-C)(C6AE-D)
67 427 (C7AE-A)
68 427 (C8AE-A)(C8AE-B)(C8AE-H)
72 427 (C8AZ-G)
66-67 428 (C6AE-A)
66 428PI (C6AE-B)(C6AE-F)
66-70 428 (C6ME)(C6ME-A)
67-70 428 (C7ME)(C7ME-A)
68-70 428CJ/SCJ (C8ME)
Windsor Family
221, 260, 289-HP, 302, 302 Boss, and 351 Windsor
"FE" Big Block
332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 391, 406, 410, 427 & 428
Includes: Side Oilers, Medium & Hi Risers, Tunnel Ports, Cobra Jets, and Cammers
Cleveland Family
351 Cleveland, 351-Boss, 351-M and 400
385 Family
429, 429 Boss and 460
HP small block ford heads
year engine casting number cc comments
63-67 289HP C3OE or C4OE-B 49.2
63-67 289HP C5OE-A or C5OE-E 54.5
85-87 302GT E5AE-CA 66
85-87 302GT E5TZ 66
85-87 302GT E5TE-AB 66
85-87 302GT E7TE-PA 66
69 boss 302 C9ZE-A 63
70 boss 302 DOZE-A or D1ZE-A 58
69 351 W C9OE-B or C9OE-D 60
69-74 351W DOOE-C or DOOE-G 62
69-74 351W DOOZ-C 62
70-71 351C DOAE-H or DOAE-R 62.8
71-74 351C D1ZE-DA or D1ZE-GA 75.4 CJ and 4V
71 351c D1ZE-B 66.1 boss
72 351C D2ZE-A 75.4 HO
big block ford head numbers
year engine casting number cc series comments
60-62 352-390HP COAE-D 60-62 FE 390HP w/dished pistons
62-63 390 6V 390HP C2SE-A 66-69 FE 6V,4V w/flat top pistons
66-67 390GT C8OZ-H 71-74 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
68-69 390GT C8OE-B or C8OE-F 71-74 FE
62 406 4V,6V C4SE-B 63-65 FE police intercepter
62-63 406 4V,6V C2SE-C 64-67 FE police intercepter
63 406 6V C3AE-C 57-61 FE machined spring seat cup
63 427 L.R. C3AE-D 64-67 FE
63 427 L.R. C3AE-G 73-76 FE
63 427 L.R. C3AE-H 73-76 FE
64-65 427L.R. C3AE-J 73-76 FE improved intake ports
68 427L.R. C8AE-J or C8AE-N 73-76 FE
68 427L.R. C8WE-A 73-76 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
68 427L.R. C8AE-N 73-76 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
65-67 427M.R. C5AE-R or C5AE-F 88-91 FE machined comb chamber
67 427T.P. C7OE-K 88-91 FE machined comb chamber
67 427T.P. C8AX 88-90 FE machined comb chamber
63 427 H.R. C3AE-K 73-76 FE machined comb chamber
64-65 427H.R. C4AE-F 73-76 FE machined comb chamber
68-70 428CJ/SCJ C8OE-N 73-76 FE 16 bolt exhaust ports
70-71 429cj/scj DOOE-R 73.5 385 screw in studs and guide plates
71-72 429P.I. D20E-AB 89 385 screw in studs and guide plates
69-70 429BOSS C9AE-AA or DOAE-AA 85 385 semi hemi comb chamber
oh yea
T.P.= tunnel port
L.R.=low riser
M.R.=medium riser
H.R.=high riser
C.J.= cobra jet
S.C.J.=super cobra jet
P.I.=police intercepter
HO= high output
HP= high proformance
W=windsor engines
C=cleveland engines
FE = 352,360,390,406,427and 428 cid engines
385= 429,460 cid engines
6V= 3 2 barrel carbs
4V= 1 4 barrel carb
8v= 2 4 barrel carbs
FE = 352,360,390,406,427and 428 cid engines
rear gear codes
CODE RATIO RING TEETH PINION TEETH LOCKING/NON LOCKING SPLINES APPLICATION NOTES MISC
WBG-E 3.70 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-F 3.89 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-H 3.89 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-L 4.11 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBS-AG 3.00 39 13 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AT 3.25 39 12 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AU 3.50 35 10 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AZ 3.50 35 10 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-BA 3.89 35 9 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-BD 3.89 35 9 NL ?? PASS
WBS-BU 3.25 39 12 NL 1964 PASSENGER
WBT-AA 3.00 39 13 NL ?? 1963 PASSENGER
WBT-AF 3.50 35 10 NL PASS
WBT-AV 3.00 39 13 NL PASSENGER 4 PINION
WBT-AY 3.50 35 10 NL PASSENGER 4 PINION
WBT-AZ 3.89 35 9 NL PASS 4 PINION
WBT-BA 4.11 37 9 NL PASS 4 PINION
WBT-BB 3.50 35 10 NL PASS
WBT-BE 3.25 39 12 NL PASS
WBT-BM 3.50 35 10 NL 63-64 PASSENGER
WBT-BU 3.00 39 13 NL 63-64 PASSENGER
WBT-BV 3.00 39 13 NL 63-64 PASS
WBT-BY 3.50 35 10 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-BZ 3.89 35 9 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-CA 4.11 37 9 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-CK 3.25 39 12 NL 1964 PASS
WBT-CL 3.50 35 10 NL 1964 PASS
WBV-AE 3.25 39 12 L PASS
WBV-AF 3.50 35 10 L PASS
WBV-AG 3.89 35 9 L PASS
WBV-AH 3.00 39 13 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AJ 3.50 35 10 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AK 3.89 35 9 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AL 4.11 37 9 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AV 3.00 39 13 L 1963-64 PASS
WBV-AZ 3.50 35 10 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BA 3.89 35 9 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BB 4.11 37 9 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BC 3.25 39 12 L 1963 PASS
WBV-BG 3.50 35 10 L 1964 PASS
WCD-C 3.00 39 13 NL 1963-64 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-D 3.00 39 13 NL THUNDERBIRD 4 PINION
WCD-E 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-F 3.50 35 10 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-G 3.25 39 12 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD 4 PINION
WCD-H 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1966 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-J 3.00 39 13 L 1966 THUNDERBIRD
WCN-A 3.00 39 13 NL 1963 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-B 3.50 35 10 NL 1963-64 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-C 4.11 37 9 NL 1963-64 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-U 3.50 35 10 NL 31 1964 PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCN-V 4.11 37 9 NL 31 1964 PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCR-A 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-B 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-D 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-E 3.25 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-F 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-G 3.70 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-H 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-J 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-K 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-L 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-M 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-N 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-R 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-S 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCT-A 3.00 39 13 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCT-B 3.50 35 10 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCT-C 4.11 37 9 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WDC-A 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1965 PASSENGER
WDC-A 2.75 NL 28 1972 PASSENGER (FORD & MERCURY)
WDC-AA 3.50 35 10 NL 28 1965 FORD & MERCURY PASSENGER
WDC-AB 3.00 39 13 NL4 28
WDC-AC 3.25 39 12 NL4 28
WDC-AD 3.50 35 10 NL4 28
WDC-AE 3.89 35 9 NL4 28
WDC-AF 4.11 37 9 NL4 28
WDC-AG 3.00 39 13 NL 28
WDC-AK 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AL 3.89 35 9 NL 28
WDC-AM 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AN 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AP 3.50 35 10 NL 28
WDC-AT 3.00 39 13 NL 28
Y-BLOCK CASTING NUMBERS
ALL BLOCKS HAVE 6015 in the block casting number. This is found on all blocks and is Ford's number for an engine block. Example- EDB 6015 E
BLOCK I.D. CODES NOTES
CEBY 256-272 cu in Cast in Canada. Export block. Used in Canada, Australia, South Africa
CECK 292 cu in Cast in Canada. Export block. Used in Canada, Australia ect
EAA 215 cu. in. I-6 1952-53 Ford OHV six cylinder. Increased to 223 in '54. See EBP
EAD 317 cu. in. V8 1952-54. Early Lincoln OHV engine. Not interchangeable with Ford. see Lincoln page http://www.ford-y-block.com
EAL 279 cu. in. V8 1954 Ford HD truck. see Lincoln page.
EAM 317 cu. in. V8 1954 Ford HD truck. see Lincoln page. http://www.ford-y-block.com
EBJ 341 cu. in. V8 1955. Early Lincoln OHV engine. See Lincoln page.
ECU 368 cu. in. V8 1956-57. Early Lincoln OHV engine. See Lincoln page.
EBP 223 cu. in. I-6 1954- cars & Lt. trucks. EBR, EBS, EBT in HD trucks
EBU 239 cu. in. V8 1954 cars only. Cleveland and Dearborn versions.
EBV 239 cu. in. V8 1955 pickup, small cam bearings http://www.ford-y-block.com
EBY 256 cu. in. V8 1954 Mercury
ECG 272 cu. in V8 1955 to 57 cars and trucks. Typically Dearborn casting.
ECH 292 cu. in. V8 1955 http://www.ford-y-block.com
ECJ 292 cu. in. V8 1955
ECL 292 cu. in. V8 1955
ECK 292 cu. in. V8 1955-56 http://www.ford-y-block.com
PLEASE NOTE: 292 and 312 Blocks are externally identical.
ECZ-A 292-312 cu. in. V8 1956 ECZ 6015 A With EBU main caps =292. ECZ main caps =312 Check crank ****** or main caps.
ECZ-B 292-312 cu in V8 1956-57 292 or 312
ECZ -C 312 cu. in. V8 1957 ECZ 6015 C. 292 with EBU main caps.
EDB 292 cu. in. V8 1957 if cast at Dearborn Foundry http://www.ford-y-block.com
EDB-E 292 cu. in V8 1958-59 cars and trucks to April 59. 312 in Mercury
B9AE-F 292 cu. in. V8 1959-60 cars and trucks. (312 with ECZ main caps, 1959 & 60 Mercury only)
C1AE-R 292 cu. in. V8 1961 cars and trucks http://www.ford-y-block.com
C2AE-C 292 cu. in. V8 1962 cars 62-64 trucks
B7ME 312 cu. in. V8 1962? later 312 replacement block. C2AE main webs. Only example seen was a marine engine
NOTE: 6015 is Ford's number for an engine block. All blocks have this number
Y-BLOCK CYLINDER HEAD CHART
Note: 6090 is Ford's number for cylinderheads. All heads will have this number somewhere. It is meaningless!
YEAR CASTING # Cu.In. Int. valve *C.R. CC’s H.P. Carb. VEHICLES
"C" PREFIX before casting # EXPORT CYLINDERHEAD CAST IN CANADA for use in CANADA, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA
54 EBU 239 1.64" 7.2 w 130 2 bbl 54 pass.car & ½T truck
54 EBY 256 1.78" 7.5 w 161 4 bbl 54 Mercury
54-55 EBZ 256 1.78" w 2 bbl 54-55 HD truck
55 EBV 239 1.78" 7.5 . 145 2 bbl 55 ½ T truck
55 ECL-A ECG-B 272 1.78" 7.6 f 162 2 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECG-D 272 1.78" 7.6 o 162 2 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECG-A ECG-C 272 1.78" 8.5 r 182 4 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECK-A ECL-A 292 1.78" 7.6 d 188 4 bbl 55 Mercury
55 ECK-B 292 1.78" 8.1 - 193 4 bbl 55 T-Bird
55 ECK-C ECL-C 292 1.78" 8.5 y 198 4 bbl 55 T-Bird, Mercury
& ECL-B
56 ECZ-C 272 1.78" 8.0 b 173 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
56 ECZ-A 272 1.78" 7.6 l 170 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
56 ECW-A 272 1.78" 7.6 o 162 2 bbl 56 HD truck
56 ECG-H ECG-R 272 1.78" 8.4 c 176 2 bbl 56 Ford, Power Pak
56 ECZ-B EDB-B 292 1.78" 8.0 k 200 4 bbl 56 Ford http://www.ford-y-block.com .
56 ECZ-C 292 1.78" 8.4 c 202 4 bbl 56 Ford & T-Bird
56 ECZ-C 312 1.78" 9.0 o 225 4 bbl 56 Ford, Mercury, T-Bird
56 ECZ-A 312 1.78" 8.0 m 210 4 bbl 56 Ford p. i. Mercury
56 ECZ-B 312 1.78" 8.4 215 4 bbl 56 Ford, Mercury
56 ED-ECZ-C 272 1.78" 8.5 73cc 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
NO HEADS ABOVE THIS POINT ARE POSTED. POSTING STARTED MAY 1957. ECZ-G, ECR and EDB HEADS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE POSTS DEPENDING ON PRODUCTION DATE
56-? ECR-various 292 Low compression HD truck or Industrial
57 ECZ-G 272 1.92" 8.6 69cc 190 2 bbl 57 Pick-up
57 ECZ-G 292 1.92" 9.0 69cc 206 2 bbl Ford, T-Bird
57 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 245 4 bbl Ford, Mercury, T-Bird
57 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 270 2X4bbl Ford, T-Bird
57-58 ECZ-A 272 1.92" 8.0 2 or 4 bbl H D truck
57 EDB-D EDB-E 312 1.92" 8.5 82cc Supercharged
57 EDB-C stamped 312 1.92" http://www.ford-y-block.com S/C Factory race head?
58 ECZ-G 292 1.92" 9.1 69cc 205 2 bbl Early 58 production Ford, P/U
58 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 235 4 bbl Mercury
ALL HEADS BELOW THIS POINT ARE POSTED
58 5752-113 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc 200 2 bbl Ford, Pick-up
59 5752-113 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc 200 2 bbl Ford cars
59 5750-471 292 1.92" 8.0 82cc 2 bbl LD, MD, HD Truck
59 5750-471 312 1.92" 8.7 82cc 210 2 bbl Mercury
60 C0TE 292 1.64" 8.1 2 bbl HD, MD & Pick-up truck
60 C0AE 292 1.64" 8.4 75cc 2 bbl 60 Ford
60 C0AE 312 1.64" 8.9 75cc 2 bbl 60 Mercury
61-62 C1AE 292 1.64" 8.8 72cc 2 bbl 61 & 62 Ford cars
61-64 C1TE 292 1.64" 8.2 76cc 2 bbl All 61-64 Trucks
* B9TE 292 1.92" 8.0 82cc http://www.ford-y-block.com 5750-471 replacement
* B9AE 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc http://www.ford-y-block.com 5752-113 replacement
*Compression ratios listed are from Ford literature and are theoretic figures that exclude deck volume and head gasket displacement. Most published compression ratios are approximately 9% higher than actual.
When engines are rebuilt with composition head gaskets deduct about 12% for actual compression.
Do to the thinness of the deck surface of some Y-Block heads, particularly the ECZ-G heads, it is recommended that unposted heads not be milled more than .025". Posted heads have been milled up to .045" without trouble.
Heads with large "S" in between center exhaust valves are service replacement heads as date codes are after production run.
5752-113 was sold as replacement head for ECZ-G
B9TE was replacement for 5750-471 B9AE was replacement for 5752-113
Rocker arms casting number located on side of rocker. If there is no number the rocker arm is an aftermarket replacement and is 1.43:1 ratio
EAN rocker is 1954-1955 1.43:1 ratio
5751066 is 1958 - 1964 1.43:1 ratio
1.54:1 HIGH RATIO ROCKERS ARE ECG 6564
PART# ROCKER ARM RATIO VALVE DIAMETER PUSH ROD LENGTH (Effective)
EAN 54-55 jamb nut 1.43:1 EXHAUST all 1.51" 1954-55 3/16" radius ball 8.11"
ECG 6564 56 jamb nut 1.54:1 INTAKE 1954 1.64" 1956-59 3/16" radius ball 7.98"
ECG 6564 57 self locking 1.54:1 INTAKE 1955-56 1.78" 1960-64 3/16" radius ball 8.11"
5751066 58-64 self locking 1.43:1 INTAKE 1957-59 1.93"
INTAKE 1960-64 1.64"
VALVE STEM DIAMETER VALVE SPRING INSTALLED HEIGHT VALVE LENGTH
11/32" single groove keeper. 1.75" to 1.78" 5.090" O.A.L.
.3410"-.3415"
OIL PUMP DRIVE FIRING ORDER CYLINDER NUMBERING DISTRIBUTOR ROTATION
#5 in front of #1
¼" Hex X 8.060" 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2 front 1 2 3 4 CCW 5 6 7 8
Y-BLOCK DISPLACEMENT CHART
STROKE
3.10" 3.30" 3.44" 3.51" 3.64" 3.70"
BORE
3.50" std. 239 239 254 265 270 280 285
3.53" +.030 239 243 258 269 275 285 290
3.54" +.040 239 244 260 271 276 287 291
3.56" +.060 239 247 263 274 279 290 294
3.62" std. 272 256 272 283 289 300 307
3.65" +.030 272 259 276 288 294 305 310
3.66" +.040 272 261 278 290 295 306 311
3.68" +.060 272 264 281 293 299 310 315
3.75" std. 292 274 292 304 310 322 327
3.77" +.020 292 277 295 307 313 325 330
3.78" +.030 292 278 296 309 315 327 332
3.79" +.040 292 280 298 310 317 329 334
3.80" std. 312 281 299 312 318 330 336
3.81" +.060 292 283 301 314 320 332 337
3.83" +.030 312 286 304 317 324 335 341
3.84" +.040 312 287 306 319 325 337 343
3.86" +.060 312 290 309 322 329 341 346
3.875" Custom 292 311 324 331 343 349
3.912" Custom 298 317 331 338 350 356
NOTES: ford-y-block.com
For 256 use 272 bores with 3.10" stroke.
3.10" stroke is "EBU" crankshaft from ’54 239 or ‘54-55 256 cubic inch engines.
3.30" stroke is "EC" crankshaft from ‘55-57 272 or ‘55-64 292 cubic inch engines or C1TE steel crank..
3.44" stroke is "ECZ" crankshaft from ‘56-60 312 cubic inch engine.
3.51" stroke is "ECZ" crankshaft offset ground to 2.100" rod journal for aftermarket
connecting rods. Assumes starting with .020" undersize journal.
3.53" is maximum offset with standard diameter rod journal.
3.64" stroke is accepted maximum stroke. Some rod/camshaft interference. Clearance rods as required.
Longer than 3.70" strokes require reduced base circle cams or 2.00" rod journals,
additional clearance grinding of connecting rods #1-3-5-7. Equalize weight of
#2-4-6-8.
Not shown. Standard 3.30" stroke cranks can be offset ground to 3.41 stroke.
Y-Block Dimensions and weights
Bore & Stroke rod length R:S ratio pin diam pin wt piston wt. rod wt. comp. ht.
239 cu.in. 3.50X 3.10" EBU 6.324" 2.038:1 .9122" 143gr 24.06oz 680gr 1.858"
256 cu.in 3.62X 3.10" EBU 6.324" 2.038:1 .9122" 143gr 24.06oz 680gr 1.858"
272 cu.in. 3.62X 3.30" EBU 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 18.70oz 680gr 1.768"
292 cu.in 3.75X 3.30" EBU 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 555gr. 680gr 1.768"
292 cu.in. 3.75X 3.30" C2AE 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 555gr 695gr 1.768"
292 HD trk 3.75X 3.30" C1TE 6.252" 1.894:1 .9122" 143gr 1.830"
312 cu.in 3.80X 3.44" ECZ 6.252" 1.816:1 .9122" 143gr 585gr 638gr 1.768"
239 & 256 used EBU 3.10" stroke crankshaft
272 & 292 used EC 3.30" crankshaft
312 used ECZ 3.44" crankshaft
Rod journal diameter: all 2.1880-2.1888" standard
Main journal diameter 239-256-272-292: 2.4980-2.4988" standard
Main journal diameter 312: 2.6240-2.6248" standard
APPROXIMATE WEIGHTS
BARE BLOCK 155 pounds
LONG BLOCK 535 pounds
COMPLETE ENGINE 610 pounds
CYLINDERHEAD BARE 49 pounds
CYLINDERHEAD COMPLETE 56 pounds
CRANKSHAFT 55 pounds
TIMING COVER 16 pounds Rebop aluminum 9 pounds
FLYWHEEL 31 pounds Mummert aluminum 15 pounds
INTAKE MANIFOLD 31 pounds Blue Thunder aluminum 15 pounds
ford small block intakes
casting port
year engine number carb width &height material comments
63-67 289hp C3OZ-C 4V .90x1.82 cast iron same as 289 4V
65-68 289hp C9OX-B 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
65-67 289hp C90Z-D 4V .90x1.82 alum cobra hi riser
66-67 289hp SFJD-F 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
66 289hp C6AE-B 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
69-70 302boss C9ZE-E 4V 1.68x2.38 alum boss302 hi riser
69-70 302boss C9ZE-D 4V 1.68x2.38 alum boss302 hi riser
69-70 302boss D1ZZ-A 8V 1.68x2.38 alum 2 X 4V'S
69-70 351w C9OX-A 4V 1.02x1.82 alum shelby gt 350
clevelands
70 351c DOOE-D 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron spread bore ******
70 351c DOAE-L 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron holley ******
71 351c D1AE-AB 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron spread bore ******
71-72 351c,HO D1ZZ-G 4V 1.63x2.38 alum dual plane
71-72 351boss,cj D1ZZ-B 4V 1.63x2.38 alum spread bore ******
71-72 351boss,cj D1ZZ-F 4V 1.63x2.38 alum spread bore ******
71 351c, HO D1ZX-FA 4V 1.63x2.38 alum single plane
BIG BLOCK FORD INTAKE CASTING NUMBERS
year engine casting carb port size material comments
number width/height
61-63 390,406 C3AZ-D 6V 1.16x2.14 alum 3 x 2V's
64-66 390HP C6AE-U 8V 1.16x2.14 alum 2 x 4V's
66-68 390GT C6AE-E 4V 1.16x1.94 cast iron
63 427 C3AE-H 8V 1.24x2.60 alum 2 x 4V's hi riser
63-64 427 C3AE-C 4V 1.16x2.20 alum low riser
63 427 C3AX-A 8V 1.24x2.60 alum 2 x 4V's hi riser
64 427 C4AE-E 4V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
64 427 C4AE-D 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
64 427 C4AE-F 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
66-67 427 C6AE-E 4V 1.24x1.94 alum med riser
66 427 C6AZ-H 4V 1.16x1.94 alum med riser
67 427 C7AE-H 8V 1.24x1.94 alum med riser
67 427 C7ZX-A 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
65 427 C5AE-E 8V 1.16x2.20 alum low riser 2 X 4V's
67 427 C7AE-F 4V 1.16x2.20 alum side winder
67 427 C7AE-K 4V 1.16x2.20 alum side winder
68-70 428CJ/SCJ C8OE-C 4V 1.24x1.94 cast iron dual plane
66-70 428 PI C6AE-F 4V 1.24x1.94 alum dual plane
70-71 429 CJ SK42855 4V 2.00x2.38 alum shelby
70-71 429 SCJ DOOE-C 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron holley ******
70 429CJ D00E-D 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron spread bore
71 429CJ D1AE-BA 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron spread bore
69-70 boss429 C9AE-D 4V 2.36x2.36 alum 4V
SMALL BLOCK FORD DISTRIBUTORS
year engine casting comments
number
64 289 C4GA-A transistor
65 289hp C3OF-A dual point mech. advance
65-67 289hp C5OF-B dual point mech. advance
65 289, (302?) C5OZ-E dual point mech. advance
69-70 boss302 C9ZF-E dual point vac. advance
69-70 boss302 D1ZZ-A service replacement
69-70 boss302 DA-1048 service replacement
70-71 351C,boss,HO D1ZZ-D dual point dual vac. diaph
SMALL BLOCK FORD CRANKSHAFT CASTING NUMBERS
year engine casting stroke journal diameter comments
number main rod
62-68 289 1M 2.87 2.248 2.123
63-67 289HP 1M 2.87 2.248 2.123 brinell test mark
68-67 302 2M 3.00 2.248 2.123
69-70 boss302 DOZE-A 3.00 2.248 2.123 forged steel
69-70 boss302 7FE-8 3.00 2.248 2.123 forged steel
69-72 351W 3M 3.50 3.00 2.311
70-74 351 C 4M 3.50 2.749 2.311 brinell test mark
70-73 351 boss.HO 4MA 3.50 2.749 2.311 brinell test mark
btw ... this came from a Ford employee ..... i think...lol
ENGINE BLOCK CASTING DATA (BASIC PART # 6015)
CID Year Casting# Bore Deck Notations
221 62 C2OE-G C30E 3.50 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 6" between motor mount holes, 2 freeze plugs per side
221 63 C3OE-A 3.50 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 7" between motor mount holes, 3 freeze plugs per side
260 62 C3OE-B 3.80 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 6" between motor mount holes, 2 freeze plugs per side
260 62-65 C3OE-C C4OE-B C4OE-D C4OE-E 3.80 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, 7" between motor mount holes, 3 freeze plugs per side
289 63-64 C3AE-N C4OE-C C4OE-F C4AE C4DE
4.00 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing
289 65-68 C5AE-E C5OE-A C6AE-C 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
289HP 63-64 C3OE-B C4OE-B 4.00 8.206 5 bolt bellhousing, orange color code - block rear
289HP 65-68 C5AE-E 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing, orange color code - block rear - except for main caps no different than standard 289 casting.
302 68-69 C8OE-A C8OE-B C8TE-B 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
302 70-74 C8TE-B D1TZ-E D1OE-AA D4DE-AA 4.00 see note 6 bolt bellhousing. 73-76 deck is 8.229, rest are 8.206
302 74-77 D4DE-AA 75ZY-AA 4.00 see note 6 bolt bellhousing. 73-76 deck is 8.229, rest are 8.206
Boss 302 69 C9ZE C8FE 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
Boss 302 70 CDOZE-B 4.00 8.206 6 bolt bellhousing
351W 69-70 C9OE-B 4.00 9.480 6 bolt bellhousing
351W 71-74 D2AE-BA D4AE-DA /td> 4.00 see note 71-73 deck is 9.480, rest are 9.503
351W 75-77 D4AE-AA 4.00 9.503
351C-2V 70-74 D0AZ-D 4.00 9.206 2 bolt mains, 6 bolt bellhousing, all 351C have same motor mounts as 289-351W
351C-4V 71 D0AE-J D0AE-G D2AE-CA 4.00 9.206 2 bolt mains
351C Boss 351C-71 CJ, HO 72-74 4V 72-74 D2AE-CA 4.00 9.206 Note casting # same as 2 bolt. Hobby consensus is that Ford mixed these in production. 2 bolt blocks have been found on 4V's and 4 bolt blocks in family cars.
351M 75-80 D5AZ D7TE-A2B D8xx 4.00 10.297 Big block(429/460) bellhousing pattern, big block motor bosses. Shares characteristics with 400
400 71-80 D1AE-A D1AE-AC D1AE-A2C D4AE-B2A D5AZ D7TE-A2B D8xx 4.00 10.297 Big block(429/460) bellhousing pattern, big block motor mount bosses.
400 73 D3AE-B 4.00 10.297 Same bellhousing pattern as 351C. Typically mated to FMX trans. Rare
BIG BLOCK FORD BLOCK NUMBERS
71-74 351C,BOSS,CJ,HO,4V (D2AE-CA)
70-74 351C 2V (DOAZ-D)
71 351C 4V (DOAE-J)(DOAE-G)
70 429CJ (C9VE-A)
70-71 429SCJ (DOOE-B)
71 429CJ (DOVE-A)
71-72 429PI (DOVE-A)
60 352 (EDC-B)(EDC-C)
62 406 (C2AE-J)(C2AE-K)(C2AE-V)
62-63 406 (C2AE-B)(C2AE-D)
63 406 (C3AE-D)(C3AE-V)
63 390PI (C3AE-KY)
63 390PI (C3ME-B)
64 390PI (C4AE-F)
65 390PI (C5AE-B)
61 390HP (C1AE-V)
62 390HP (C2AE-BC)(C2AE-BE)
62 390HP (C2AE-BR)(C2AE-BS)
63 427 (C3AE-M)(C3AE-AB)
64 427 (C4AE)(C4AE-A)
65 427 (C3AE-Z)
65 427 (C5AE-A)(C5AE-E)
65 427 (C5AE-A)(C5AE-D)(C5AE-H)
66 427 (6AE-C)
66-67 427 (C6AE-A)(C6AE-B)(C6AE-C)(C6AE-D)
67 427 (C7AE-A)
68 427 (C8AE-A)(C8AE-B)(C8AE-H)
72 427 (C8AZ-G)
66-67 428 (C6AE-A)
66 428PI (C6AE-B)(C6AE-F)
66-70 428 (C6ME)(C6ME-A)
67-70 428 (C7ME)(C7ME-A)
68-70 428CJ/SCJ (C8ME)
Windsor Family
221, 260, 289-HP, 302, 302 Boss, and 351 Windsor
"FE" Big Block
332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 391, 406, 410, 427 & 428
Includes: Side Oilers, Medium & Hi Risers, Tunnel Ports, Cobra Jets, and Cammers
Cleveland Family
351 Cleveland, 351-Boss, 351-M and 400
385 Family
429, 429 Boss and 460
HP small block ford heads
year engine casting number cc comments
63-67 289HP C3OE or C4OE-B 49.2
63-67 289HP C5OE-A or C5OE-E 54.5
85-87 302GT E5AE-CA 66
85-87 302GT E5TZ 66
85-87 302GT E5TE-AB 66
85-87 302GT E7TE-PA 66
69 boss 302 C9ZE-A 63
70 boss 302 DOZE-A or D1ZE-A 58
69 351 W C9OE-B or C9OE-D 60
69-74 351W DOOE-C or DOOE-G 62
69-74 351W DOOZ-C 62
70-71 351C DOAE-H or DOAE-R 62.8
71-74 351C D1ZE-DA or D1ZE-GA 75.4 CJ and 4V
71 351c D1ZE-B 66.1 boss
72 351C D2ZE-A 75.4 HO
big block ford head numbers
year engine casting number cc series comments
60-62 352-390HP COAE-D 60-62 FE 390HP w/dished pistons
62-63 390 6V 390HP C2SE-A 66-69 FE 6V,4V w/flat top pistons
66-67 390GT C8OZ-H 71-74 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
68-69 390GT C8OE-B or C8OE-F 71-74 FE
62 406 4V,6V C4SE-B 63-65 FE police intercepter
62-63 406 4V,6V C2SE-C 64-67 FE police intercepter
63 406 6V C3AE-C 57-61 FE machined spring seat cup
63 427 L.R. C3AE-D 64-67 FE
63 427 L.R. C3AE-G 73-76 FE
63 427 L.R. C3AE-H 73-76 FE
64-65 427L.R. C3AE-J 73-76 FE improved intake ports
68 427L.R. C8AE-J or C8AE-N 73-76 FE
68 427L.R. C8WE-A 73-76 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
68 427L.R. C8AE-N 73-76 FE 14 bolt exhaust ports
65-67 427M.R. C5AE-R or C5AE-F 88-91 FE machined comb chamber
67 427T.P. C7OE-K 88-91 FE machined comb chamber
67 427T.P. C8AX 88-90 FE machined comb chamber
63 427 H.R. C3AE-K 73-76 FE machined comb chamber
64-65 427H.R. C4AE-F 73-76 FE machined comb chamber
68-70 428CJ/SCJ C8OE-N 73-76 FE 16 bolt exhaust ports
70-71 429cj/scj DOOE-R 73.5 385 screw in studs and guide plates
71-72 429P.I. D20E-AB 89 385 screw in studs and guide plates
69-70 429BOSS C9AE-AA or DOAE-AA 85 385 semi hemi comb chamber
oh yea
T.P.= tunnel port
L.R.=low riser
M.R.=medium riser
H.R.=high riser
C.J.= cobra jet
S.C.J.=super cobra jet
P.I.=police intercepter
HO= high output
HP= high proformance
W=windsor engines
C=cleveland engines
FE = 352,360,390,406,427and 428 cid engines
385= 429,460 cid engines
6V= 3 2 barrel carbs
4V= 1 4 barrel carb
8v= 2 4 barrel carbs
FE = 352,360,390,406,427and 428 cid engines
rear gear codes
CODE RATIO RING TEETH PINION TEETH LOCKING/NON LOCKING SPLINES APPLICATION NOTES MISC
WBG-E 3.70 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-F 3.89 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-H 3.89 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBG-L 4.11 NL 28 F100 PICKUP 1963-1972
WBS-AG 3.00 39 13 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AT 3.25 39 12 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AU 3.50 35 10 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-AZ 3.50 35 10 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-BA 3.89 35 9 NL ?? PASSENGER
WBS-BD 3.89 35 9 NL ?? PASS
WBS-BU 3.25 39 12 NL 1964 PASSENGER
WBT-AA 3.00 39 13 NL ?? 1963 PASSENGER
WBT-AF 3.50 35 10 NL PASS
WBT-AV 3.00 39 13 NL PASSENGER 4 PINION
WBT-AY 3.50 35 10 NL PASSENGER 4 PINION
WBT-AZ 3.89 35 9 NL PASS 4 PINION
WBT-BA 4.11 37 9 NL PASS 4 PINION
WBT-BB 3.50 35 10 NL PASS
WBT-BE 3.25 39 12 NL PASS
WBT-BM 3.50 35 10 NL 63-64 PASSENGER
WBT-BU 3.00 39 13 NL 63-64 PASSENGER
WBT-BV 3.00 39 13 NL 63-64 PASS
WBT-BY 3.50 35 10 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-BZ 3.89 35 9 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-CA 4.11 37 9 NL 63-64 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBT-CK 3.25 39 12 NL 1964 PASS
WBT-CL 3.50 35 10 NL 1964 PASS
WBV-AE 3.25 39 12 L PASS
WBV-AF 3.50 35 10 L PASS
WBV-AG 3.89 35 9 L PASS
WBV-AH 3.00 39 13 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AJ 3.50 35 10 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AK 3.89 35 9 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AL 4.11 37 9 L PASS 4 PINION
WBV-AV 3.00 39 13 L 1963-64 PASS
WBV-AZ 3.50 35 10 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BA 3.89 35 9 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BB 4.11 37 9 L 1963 PASS 4 PINION DAMPER TYPE ******
WBV-BC 3.25 39 12 L 1963 PASS
WBV-BG 3.50 35 10 L 1964 PASS
WCD-C 3.00 39 13 NL 1963-64 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-D 3.00 39 13 NL THUNDERBIRD 4 PINION
WCD-E 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-F 3.50 35 10 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-G 3.25 39 12 NL 28 1965 THUNDERBIRD 4 PINION
WCD-H 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1966 THUNDERBIRD
WCD-J 3.00 39 13 L 1966 THUNDERBIRD
WCN-A 3.00 39 13 NL 1963 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-B 3.50 35 10 NL 1963-64 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-C 4.11 37 9 NL 1963-64 PASSENGER 4 PINION 1/2" RING GEAR BOLTS
WCN-U 3.50 35 10 NL 31 1964 PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCN-V 4.11 37 9 NL 31 1964 PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCR-A 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-B 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-D 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-E 3.25 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-F 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-G 3.70 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-H 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-J 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-K 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-L 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-M 4.11 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-N 4.57 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-R 3.50 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCR-S 3.00 NL 28 1963-67 ECONOLINE
WCT-A 3.00 39 13 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCT-B 3.50 35 10 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WCT-C 4.11 37 9 L PASSENGER 4 PINION
WDC-A 3.00 39 13 NL 28 1965 PASSENGER
WDC-A 2.75 NL 28 1972 PASSENGER (FORD & MERCURY)
WDC-AA 3.50 35 10 NL 28 1965 FORD & MERCURY PASSENGER
WDC-AB 3.00 39 13 NL4 28
WDC-AC 3.25 39 12 NL4 28
WDC-AD 3.50 35 10 NL4 28
WDC-AE 3.89 35 9 NL4 28
WDC-AF 4.11 37 9 NL4 28
WDC-AG 3.00 39 13 NL 28
WDC-AK 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AL 3.89 35 9 NL 28
WDC-AM 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AN 3.25 39 12 NL 28
WDC-AP 3.50 35 10 NL 28
WDC-AT 3.00 39 13 NL 28
Y-BLOCK CASTING NUMBERS
ALL BLOCKS HAVE 6015 in the block casting number. This is found on all blocks and is Ford's number for an engine block. Example- EDB 6015 E
BLOCK I.D. CODES NOTES
CEBY 256-272 cu in Cast in Canada. Export block. Used in Canada, Australia, South Africa
CECK 292 cu in Cast in Canada. Export block. Used in Canada, Australia ect
EAA 215 cu. in. I-6 1952-53 Ford OHV six cylinder. Increased to 223 in '54. See EBP
EAD 317 cu. in. V8 1952-54. Early Lincoln OHV engine. Not interchangeable with Ford. see Lincoln page http://www.ford-y-block.com
EAL 279 cu. in. V8 1954 Ford HD truck. see Lincoln page.
EAM 317 cu. in. V8 1954 Ford HD truck. see Lincoln page. http://www.ford-y-block.com
EBJ 341 cu. in. V8 1955. Early Lincoln OHV engine. See Lincoln page.
ECU 368 cu. in. V8 1956-57. Early Lincoln OHV engine. See Lincoln page.
EBP 223 cu. in. I-6 1954- cars & Lt. trucks. EBR, EBS, EBT in HD trucks
EBU 239 cu. in. V8 1954 cars only. Cleveland and Dearborn versions.
EBV 239 cu. in. V8 1955 pickup, small cam bearings http://www.ford-y-block.com
EBY 256 cu. in. V8 1954 Mercury
ECG 272 cu. in V8 1955 to 57 cars and trucks. Typically Dearborn casting.
ECH 292 cu. in. V8 1955 http://www.ford-y-block.com
ECJ 292 cu. in. V8 1955
ECL 292 cu. in. V8 1955
ECK 292 cu. in. V8 1955-56 http://www.ford-y-block.com
PLEASE NOTE: 292 and 312 Blocks are externally identical.
ECZ-A 292-312 cu. in. V8 1956 ECZ 6015 A With EBU main caps =292. ECZ main caps =312 Check crank ****** or main caps.
ECZ-B 292-312 cu in V8 1956-57 292 or 312
ECZ -C 312 cu. in. V8 1957 ECZ 6015 C. 292 with EBU main caps.
EDB 292 cu. in. V8 1957 if cast at Dearborn Foundry http://www.ford-y-block.com
EDB-E 292 cu. in V8 1958-59 cars and trucks to April 59. 312 in Mercury
B9AE-F 292 cu. in. V8 1959-60 cars and trucks. (312 with ECZ main caps, 1959 & 60 Mercury only)
C1AE-R 292 cu. in. V8 1961 cars and trucks http://www.ford-y-block.com
C2AE-C 292 cu. in. V8 1962 cars 62-64 trucks
B7ME 312 cu. in. V8 1962? later 312 replacement block. C2AE main webs. Only example seen was a marine engine
NOTE: 6015 is Ford's number for an engine block. All blocks have this number
Y-BLOCK CYLINDER HEAD CHART
Note: 6090 is Ford's number for cylinderheads. All heads will have this number somewhere. It is meaningless!
YEAR CASTING # Cu.In. Int. valve *C.R. CC’s H.P. Carb. VEHICLES
"C" PREFIX before casting # EXPORT CYLINDERHEAD CAST IN CANADA for use in CANADA, AUSTRALIA, SOUTH AFRICA
54 EBU 239 1.64" 7.2 w 130 2 bbl 54 pass.car & ½T truck
54 EBY 256 1.78" 7.5 w 161 4 bbl 54 Mercury
54-55 EBZ 256 1.78" w 2 bbl 54-55 HD truck
55 EBV 239 1.78" 7.5 . 145 2 bbl 55 ½ T truck
55 ECL-A ECG-B 272 1.78" 7.6 f 162 2 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECG-D 272 1.78" 7.6 o 162 2 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECG-A ECG-C 272 1.78" 8.5 r 182 4 bbl 55 Ford
55 ECK-A ECL-A 292 1.78" 7.6 d 188 4 bbl 55 Mercury
55 ECK-B 292 1.78" 8.1 - 193 4 bbl 55 T-Bird
55 ECK-C ECL-C 292 1.78" 8.5 y 198 4 bbl 55 T-Bird, Mercury
& ECL-B
56 ECZ-C 272 1.78" 8.0 b 173 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
56 ECZ-A 272 1.78" 7.6 l 170 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
56 ECW-A 272 1.78" 7.6 o 162 2 bbl 56 HD truck
56 ECG-H ECG-R 272 1.78" 8.4 c 176 2 bbl 56 Ford, Power Pak
56 ECZ-B EDB-B 292 1.78" 8.0 k 200 4 bbl 56 Ford http://www.ford-y-block.com .
56 ECZ-C 292 1.78" 8.4 c 202 4 bbl 56 Ford & T-Bird
56 ECZ-C 312 1.78" 9.0 o 225 4 bbl 56 Ford, Mercury, T-Bird
56 ECZ-A 312 1.78" 8.0 m 210 4 bbl 56 Ford p. i. Mercury
56 ECZ-B 312 1.78" 8.4 215 4 bbl 56 Ford, Mercury
56 ED-ECZ-C 272 1.78" 8.5 73cc 2 bbl 56 Pick-up
NO HEADS ABOVE THIS POINT ARE POSTED. POSTING STARTED MAY 1957. ECZ-G, ECR and EDB HEADS MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE POSTS DEPENDING ON PRODUCTION DATE
56-? ECR-various 292 Low compression HD truck or Industrial
57 ECZ-G 272 1.92" 8.6 69cc 190 2 bbl 57 Pick-up
57 ECZ-G 292 1.92" 9.0 69cc 206 2 bbl Ford, T-Bird
57 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 245 4 bbl Ford, Mercury, T-Bird
57 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 270 2X4bbl Ford, T-Bird
57-58 ECZ-A 272 1.92" 8.0 2 or 4 bbl H D truck
57 EDB-D EDB-E 312 1.92" 8.5 82cc Supercharged
57 EDB-C stamped 312 1.92" http://www.ford-y-block.com S/C Factory race head?
58 ECZ-G 292 1.92" 9.1 69cc 205 2 bbl Early 58 production Ford, P/U
58 ECZ-G 312 1.92" 9.7 69cc 235 4 bbl Mercury
ALL HEADS BELOW THIS POINT ARE POSTED
58 5752-113 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc 200 2 bbl Ford, Pick-up
59 5752-113 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc 200 2 bbl Ford cars
59 5750-471 292 1.92" 8.0 82cc 2 bbl LD, MD, HD Truck
59 5750-471 312 1.92" 8.7 82cc 210 2 bbl Mercury
60 C0TE 292 1.64" 8.1 2 bbl HD, MD & Pick-up truck
60 C0AE 292 1.64" 8.4 75cc 2 bbl 60 Ford
60 C0AE 312 1.64" 8.9 75cc 2 bbl 60 Mercury
61-62 C1AE 292 1.64" 8.8 72cc 2 bbl 61 & 62 Ford cars
61-64 C1TE 292 1.64" 8.2 76cc 2 bbl All 61-64 Trucks
* B9TE 292 1.92" 8.0 82cc http://www.ford-y-block.com 5750-471 replacement
* B9AE 292 1.92" 8.8 72cc http://www.ford-y-block.com 5752-113 replacement
*Compression ratios listed are from Ford literature and are theoretic figures that exclude deck volume and head gasket displacement. Most published compression ratios are approximately 9% higher than actual.
When engines are rebuilt with composition head gaskets deduct about 12% for actual compression.
Do to the thinness of the deck surface of some Y-Block heads, particularly the ECZ-G heads, it is recommended that unposted heads not be milled more than .025". Posted heads have been milled up to .045" without trouble.
Heads with large "S" in between center exhaust valves are service replacement heads as date codes are after production run.
5752-113 was sold as replacement head for ECZ-G
B9TE was replacement for 5750-471 B9AE was replacement for 5752-113
Rocker arms casting number located on side of rocker. If there is no number the rocker arm is an aftermarket replacement and is 1.43:1 ratio
EAN rocker is 1954-1955 1.43:1 ratio
5751066 is 1958 - 1964 1.43:1 ratio
1.54:1 HIGH RATIO ROCKERS ARE ECG 6564
PART# ROCKER ARM RATIO VALVE DIAMETER PUSH ROD LENGTH (Effective)
EAN 54-55 jamb nut 1.43:1 EXHAUST all 1.51" 1954-55 3/16" radius ball 8.11"
ECG 6564 56 jamb nut 1.54:1 INTAKE 1954 1.64" 1956-59 3/16" radius ball 7.98"
ECG 6564 57 self locking 1.54:1 INTAKE 1955-56 1.78" 1960-64 3/16" radius ball 8.11"
5751066 58-64 self locking 1.43:1 INTAKE 1957-59 1.93"
INTAKE 1960-64 1.64"
VALVE STEM DIAMETER VALVE SPRING INSTALLED HEIGHT VALVE LENGTH
11/32" single groove keeper. 1.75" to 1.78" 5.090" O.A.L.
.3410"-.3415"
OIL PUMP DRIVE FIRING ORDER CYLINDER NUMBERING DISTRIBUTOR ROTATION
#5 in front of #1
¼" Hex X 8.060" 1-5-4-8-6-3-7-2 front 1 2 3 4 CCW 5 6 7 8
Y-BLOCK DISPLACEMENT CHART
STROKE
3.10" 3.30" 3.44" 3.51" 3.64" 3.70"
BORE
3.50" std. 239 239 254 265 270 280 285
3.53" +.030 239 243 258 269 275 285 290
3.54" +.040 239 244 260 271 276 287 291
3.56" +.060 239 247 263 274 279 290 294
3.62" std. 272 256 272 283 289 300 307
3.65" +.030 272 259 276 288 294 305 310
3.66" +.040 272 261 278 290 295 306 311
3.68" +.060 272 264 281 293 299 310 315
3.75" std. 292 274 292 304 310 322 327
3.77" +.020 292 277 295 307 313 325 330
3.78" +.030 292 278 296 309 315 327 332
3.79" +.040 292 280 298 310 317 329 334
3.80" std. 312 281 299 312 318 330 336
3.81" +.060 292 283 301 314 320 332 337
3.83" +.030 312 286 304 317 324 335 341
3.84" +.040 312 287 306 319 325 337 343
3.86" +.060 312 290 309 322 329 341 346
3.875" Custom 292 311 324 331 343 349
3.912" Custom 298 317 331 338 350 356
NOTES: ford-y-block.com
For 256 use 272 bores with 3.10" stroke.
3.10" stroke is "EBU" crankshaft from ’54 239 or ‘54-55 256 cubic inch engines.
3.30" stroke is "EC" crankshaft from ‘55-57 272 or ‘55-64 292 cubic inch engines or C1TE steel crank..
3.44" stroke is "ECZ" crankshaft from ‘56-60 312 cubic inch engine.
3.51" stroke is "ECZ" crankshaft offset ground to 2.100" rod journal for aftermarket
connecting rods. Assumes starting with .020" undersize journal.
3.53" is maximum offset with standard diameter rod journal.
3.64" stroke is accepted maximum stroke. Some rod/camshaft interference. Clearance rods as required.
Longer than 3.70" strokes require reduced base circle cams or 2.00" rod journals,
additional clearance grinding of connecting rods #1-3-5-7. Equalize weight of
#2-4-6-8.
Not shown. Standard 3.30" stroke cranks can be offset ground to 3.41 stroke.
Y-Block Dimensions and weights
Bore & Stroke rod length R:S ratio pin diam pin wt piston wt. rod wt. comp. ht.
239 cu.in. 3.50X 3.10" EBU 6.324" 2.038:1 .9122" 143gr 24.06oz 680gr 1.858"
256 cu.in 3.62X 3.10" EBU 6.324" 2.038:1 .9122" 143gr 24.06oz 680gr 1.858"
272 cu.in. 3.62X 3.30" EBU 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 18.70oz 680gr 1.768"
292 cu.in 3.75X 3.30" EBU 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 555gr. 680gr 1.768"
292 cu.in. 3.75X 3.30" C2AE 6.324" 1.915:1 .9122" 143gr 555gr 695gr 1.768"
292 HD trk 3.75X 3.30" C1TE 6.252" 1.894:1 .9122" 143gr 1.830"
312 cu.in 3.80X 3.44" ECZ 6.252" 1.816:1 .9122" 143gr 585gr 638gr 1.768"
239 & 256 used EBU 3.10" stroke crankshaft
272 & 292 used EC 3.30" crankshaft
312 used ECZ 3.44" crankshaft
Rod journal diameter: all 2.1880-2.1888" standard
Main journal diameter 239-256-272-292: 2.4980-2.4988" standard
Main journal diameter 312: 2.6240-2.6248" standard
APPROXIMATE WEIGHTS
BARE BLOCK 155 pounds
LONG BLOCK 535 pounds
COMPLETE ENGINE 610 pounds
CYLINDERHEAD BARE 49 pounds
CYLINDERHEAD COMPLETE 56 pounds
CRANKSHAFT 55 pounds
TIMING COVER 16 pounds Rebop aluminum 9 pounds
FLYWHEEL 31 pounds Mummert aluminum 15 pounds
INTAKE MANIFOLD 31 pounds Blue Thunder aluminum 15 pounds
ford small block intakes
casting port
year engine number carb width &height material comments
63-67 289hp C3OZ-C 4V .90x1.82 cast iron same as 289 4V
65-68 289hp C9OX-B 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
65-67 289hp C90Z-D 4V .90x1.82 alum cobra hi riser
66-67 289hp SFJD-F 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
66 289hp C6AE-B 4V .90x1.82 alum shelby 350 hi riser
69-70 302boss C9ZE-E 4V 1.68x2.38 alum boss302 hi riser
69-70 302boss C9ZE-D 4V 1.68x2.38 alum boss302 hi riser
69-70 302boss D1ZZ-A 8V 1.68x2.38 alum 2 X 4V'S
69-70 351w C9OX-A 4V 1.02x1.82 alum shelby gt 350
clevelands
70 351c DOOE-D 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron spread bore ******
70 351c DOAE-L 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron holley ******
71 351c D1AE-AB 4V 1.63x2.38 cast iron spread bore ******
71-72 351c,HO D1ZZ-G 4V 1.63x2.38 alum dual plane
71-72 351boss,cj D1ZZ-B 4V 1.63x2.38 alum spread bore ******
71-72 351boss,cj D1ZZ-F 4V 1.63x2.38 alum spread bore ******
71 351c, HO D1ZX-FA 4V 1.63x2.38 alum single plane
BIG BLOCK FORD INTAKE CASTING NUMBERS
year engine casting carb port size material comments
number width/height
61-63 390,406 C3AZ-D 6V 1.16x2.14 alum 3 x 2V's
64-66 390HP C6AE-U 8V 1.16x2.14 alum 2 x 4V's
66-68 390GT C6AE-E 4V 1.16x1.94 cast iron
63 427 C3AE-H 8V 1.24x2.60 alum 2 x 4V's hi riser
63-64 427 C3AE-C 4V 1.16x2.20 alum low riser
63 427 C3AX-A 8V 1.24x2.60 alum 2 x 4V's hi riser
64 427 C4AE-E 4V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
64 427 C4AE-D 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
64 427 C4AE-F 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
66-67 427 C6AE-E 4V 1.24x1.94 alum med riser
66 427 C6AZ-H 4V 1.16x1.94 alum med riser
67 427 C7AE-H 8V 1.24x1.94 alum med riser
67 427 C7ZX-A 8V 1.24x2.60 alum hi riser
65 427 C5AE-E 8V 1.16x2.20 alum low riser 2 X 4V's
67 427 C7AE-F 4V 1.16x2.20 alum side winder
67 427 C7AE-K 4V 1.16x2.20 alum side winder
68-70 428CJ/SCJ C8OE-C 4V 1.24x1.94 cast iron dual plane
66-70 428 PI C6AE-F 4V 1.24x1.94 alum dual plane
70-71 429 CJ SK42855 4V 2.00x2.38 alum shelby
70-71 429 SCJ DOOE-C 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron holley ******
70 429CJ D00E-D 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron spread bore
71 429CJ D1AE-BA 4V 2.00x2.38 cast iron spread bore
69-70 boss429 C9AE-D 4V 2.36x2.36 alum 4V
SMALL BLOCK FORD DISTRIBUTORS
year engine casting comments
number
64 289 C4GA-A transistor
65 289hp C3OF-A dual point mech. advance
65-67 289hp C5OF-B dual point mech. advance
65 289, (302?) C5OZ-E dual point mech. advance
69-70 boss302 C9ZF-E dual point vac. advance
69-70 boss302 D1ZZ-A service replacement
69-70 boss302 DA-1048 service replacement
70-71 351C,boss,HO D1ZZ-D dual point dual vac. diaph
SMALL BLOCK FORD CRANKSHAFT CASTING NUMBERS
year engine casting stroke journal diameter comments
number main rod
62-68 289 1M 2.87 2.248 2.123
63-67 289HP 1M 2.87 2.248 2.123 brinell test mark
68-67 302 2M 3.00 2.248 2.123
69-70 boss302 DOZE-A 3.00 2.248 2.123 forged steel
69-70 boss302 7FE-8 3.00 2.248 2.123 forged steel
69-72 351W 3M 3.50 3.00 2.311
70-74 351 C 4M 3.50 2.749 2.311 brinell test mark
70-73 351 boss.HO 4MA 3.50 2.749 2.311 brinell test mark
96 Ranger Extended cab - work in progress.. 5.0 out of a 90 Mustang GT..Tremec TKO-3550-2 with mid-shift conversion ..Explorer GT40 intake and fuel rails. X303 FMS cam . WP Jr alum heads . K&N air filter.lowered .Weld Drag Lites (or Weld Pro-Stars) .. a 8.8 with Auburn Pro ..Moser custom alloy street axles (31 spline) and a 3:73 gear.L&L engine mounts and oil filter adapter.Aluminum Rad from James Duff.
Peace from Oxford Miss.
Grumpy
Peace from Oxford Miss.
Grumpy
Re: i dont kow if this belongs here or not ......
The 351C (335 series) is and has always been a small block. It shares all the major specs with the Windsor small block series and nothing whatsoever with either big block series (either the FE or 385 series).
Where people get into trouble here is to assume that because the 351M (Michigan, not modified) and 400M engines used a big block sized bellhousing that makes it a big block. It doesn't. Those are small blocks with a big block bellhousing.
What designates small block or big block is not the arbitrary bulk of the block, or "it just looks bigger", or cubic inches. The windsor series small block from 221-351W and the 335 series C or M from 302 (australian) - 400 all use the same bore spacing, crank bearing spacing, head bolt pattern, camshaft interchangeability, cam to crank centerline, etc.
There were only a few actual 351C engines that used the big block bellhousing, built in the last years of 351C production. The term "mid block" has been used in the description of 351C (the few) and 351M, and the 400M which carry the 385 series bellhousing size. The "mid" does not refer to "middle" (in between the size of a small or big block), it is most likely derived from "Midland", the factory in which they were supposedly made. This is incorrect! The M refers to Michigan Casting Center where all M blocks were cast after 1975. Ford never even had a Midland engine plant.
Where people get into trouble here is to assume that because the 351M (Michigan, not modified) and 400M engines used a big block sized bellhousing that makes it a big block. It doesn't. Those are small blocks with a big block bellhousing.
What designates small block or big block is not the arbitrary bulk of the block, or "it just looks bigger", or cubic inches. The windsor series small block from 221-351W and the 335 series C or M from 302 (australian) - 400 all use the same bore spacing, crank bearing spacing, head bolt pattern, camshaft interchangeability, cam to crank centerline, etc.
There were only a few actual 351C engines that used the big block bellhousing, built in the last years of 351C production. The term "mid block" has been used in the description of 351C (the few) and 351M, and the 400M which carry the 385 series bellhousing size. The "mid" does not refer to "middle" (in between the size of a small or big block), it is most likely derived from "Midland", the factory in which they were supposedly made. This is incorrect! The M refers to Michigan Casting Center where all M blocks were cast after 1975. Ford never even had a Midland engine plant.