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I'm having trouble with my daughter's Focus. For a couple of weeks now when you put the key in the ignition, it won't turn. After taking it out and trying several times it finally turns and cranks. Is this just a bad tumbler or something more serious? Is it going to be difficult to remove and replace. Thanks for the help.
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Larry,
Had the same problem with my 2000 Ranger. Had the service guy come out and check it out. He said "Don't watch" as he took a 2x4 and pounded on the ingition. Said Ford used a really stiff grease causing the tumbers not to work in cold weather. Said to really spray the crop out ot it with WD-40, no problem since. Maybe it's that simple!
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Depending on age the tumbler could be worn or broken too. I've had to replace one before that would stick.
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Dave wrote:...Said to really spray the crop out ot it with WD-40, no problem since...
I've learned that WD40 can be a double-edged sword. It penetrates and loostens things up but when it dries, it often leaves them worse than they were before with a sticky film that's not very lubricating at all.

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3-n-1 oil works far better for not leaving a sticky residue, but unfortunately doesn't have as good of the penetrating characteristic as WD does. The interesting thing is the same people that make WD-40 now make 3-n-1.

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05-21-17 IGNITION KEY DIFFICULT OR UNABLE TO BE TURNED OR REMOVED - KEY-IN-IGNITION WARNING CHIME SOUNDING WITH KEY REMOVED

Publication Date: October 17, 2005

FORD: 2000-2005 Focus


This article supersedes TSB 05-19-11 to update the Service Procedure.

ISSUE:
Some 2000-2005 Focus vehicles may exhibit ignition key related issues including difficulty or an inability to turn the key, an inability to remove the key, or (2005 only) the key-in-ignition warning chime continuing to sound even when the key is removed.

ACTION:
Based on the vehicle's symptom, refer to the appropriate Service Procedure.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

UNABLE TO REMOVE IGNITION KEY

Check if the inability to remove the key is the result of normal operation of the key removal inhibit circuit: In automatic transmission equipped vehicles, the key removal inhibit solenoid (within the ignition switch assembly) is energized when the gear selector is moved out of the park position, and prevents the ignition key from being removed. If the gear selector is in any position other than park when the key is rotated or turned off, the key removal inhibit circuit will not release the key (key cannot be removed). To remove the key, the gear selector must first be placed in the park position, then the ignition must be cycled to run and back to lock. This is normal, do not replace the ignition lock cylinder if it is operating as described.
Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 307-05 and follow diagnostics for the "shift interlock system". The shift interlock system includes the key removal inhibit circuit, which may be causing the concern. If the shift interlock system is operating correctly, replace the ignition lock cylinder. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 501-14, "Ignition Lock Cylinder - Functional" removal and installation procedure.
DIFFICULT OR UNABLE TO TURN IGNITION KEY

Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 211-05 and follow diagnostics.
If Workshop Manual diagnostics determine that the ignition lock cylinder is the cause, replace the cylinder. If the ignition key cannot be turned, follow the "Ignition Lock Cylinder - Non Functional" removal and installation procedure in the 2005 model year Workshop Manual Section 501-14.
KEY-IN-IGNITION WARNING CHIME SOUNDING WITH IGNITION KEY REMOVED (2005 Model Year Only)

2005 Model Year Vehicles Produced Prior to 7/1/2004
Replace the ignition lock cylinder. Refer to Workshop Manual Section 501-14, "Ignition Lock Cylinder - Functional" removal and installation procedure.
2005 Model Year Vehicles Produced 7/1/2004 or Later
Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 413-09 and follow diagnostics for key-in ignition warning chime does not operate properly.

PART NUMBER PART NAME
5S4Z-11582-BB Ignition Lock Cylinder


WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage

DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
11582 41

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SECTION 501-14: Handles, Locks, Latches and Entry Systems 2000 Focus Workshop Manual
REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION Procedure revision date: 01/24/2003

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Ignition Lock Cylinder
Removal

Disconnect the battery ground cable. For additional information, refer to Section 414-01.
Remove the instrument panel lower panel.
Remove the screws.
Release the fastener.

Detach the steering column upper shroud.
Using a thin bladed screwdriver, release the two clips (one each side).

Remove the audio control switch (if equipped).
Using a thin bladed screwdriver, release the locking tang.
Disconnect the electrical connector.

Remove the steering column lower shroud.
Release the steering column locking lever.
Remove the screws.
Remove the ignition key.

Remove the ignition lock cylinder.
Insert and turn the ignition key to position I (Accessory).
Using a thin bladed screwdriver, depress the detent.
Remove the lock cylinder.

Installation

To install, reverse the removal procedure.
Initialize the door window motors. For additional information, refer to Section 501-11.


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Post by cjcnomor4 »

replace the ignition lock cylinder. I've done dozens for the same problem. It comes as a kit and you have to pin the new one to fit your keys. If you can get it out and dont feel comfortable rebuilding the new one, take it to a locksmith. if you cant get it out at all I'd recommend taking it to the dealer. If you do it all yourself be careful putting the cylinder back in. the tab has to line up with the hole in the column. If it goes in wrong it will not come out without destroying the column.
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ported GT-40P heads, E-303 cam, Trick Flow Street Heat intake, 1.7 rollers, 24lb injs,155lph in-tank pump, built AOD, 2800 converter, Torque Monster headers, dropped 3/4 on 98 Cobra wheels. Eternal work in progress.
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Post by 2lo-rngr »

Another form of lubrication that's good for locks is graphite. I use that in all my locks. It works great, and wont dry to be sticky or attract dirt, etc.
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